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Post by Sunfires on Jan 15, 2013 3:18:37 GMT -5
Fucking retarded. You guys are a HFA community and should take actions for scams between eachother like seriously WTF made you change your mind too " bet at your own risk " what in the world was going wrong with the other rule? This is retarded and I ain't ever betting no HFA nigga ever again cause they bound to scam.
Stupid ass main owners now I can't bet on NBA games lil fuckers
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Post by Southeastern PEACE on Jan 15, 2013 3:53:21 GMT -5
Bet with people you trust then. There are only four people on these forums I would trust with a bet and three of them don't normally bet.
Banning players for actions that don't involve HFA was retarded. The outcome of the Ravens/Patriots game shouldn't determine whether or not you play in HFA. A lot of people are making bets because they're so confident in winning but they don't even have the coins to pay it off nor the disposable income offline to waste on coins.
It also got really pedantic. People were getting into arguments about what the betting stipulations meant and people were also being super vague about their bets. "Loser pays ASAP" doesn't actually determine when the loser pays. "Loser pays one day/week/month after the game" also is vague. Does it mean exactly one day/week/whatever? If the game ends at 3:27 PM, do I have until 3:27 PM tomorrow to pay you or until midnight the next day?
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Post by Southeastern PEACE on Jan 15, 2013 3:57:05 GMT -5
The other reason I'm pro-betting rule is that people would do things like John did to Eli. John expected the people who lost to him to pay him the next day but he cut a deal with a few people to give them until the end of the season so they wouldn't get banned while making Eli still have to pay the next day.
It would be like me making a bet with you and Don. You both lose and I expect payment the next day but instead I give Don until the end of the month so he doesn't get banned from HFA but I still expect you to have my coins. How is that fair to you? Just because I'm friendly with someone doesn't mean they should get better treatment when it comes to payment.
The only way HFA should be able to enforce bans on betting would be if there was a set betting template, where the loser would ALWAYS have to pay by midnight the day after the game in question ended.
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Post by Sunfires on Jan 15, 2013 4:51:27 GMT -5
True, so what you are trying to say here is every bet should be paid right after a game is done? Because I agree with that 100percent.
Let's face it as much arguments/misunderstandings and all that crap that has been going on with bets will compare to nothing wig what WILL soon happen when they get scammed. This will cause world war 3, I can nam you 3 situations right now where I nearly got scammed if it wasn't for the banning system to step in, they tried removing me of habbo and ignoring me , I simply posted a thread to banned him 10 mins later reality hit him and I was 100 coins richer. What I am trying to say her " bet at your own risk " simply won't work and it's really stupid... If there was arguments then I guarantee 20 times more arguments to come. Simply retarded.
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Post by Southeastern PEACE on Jan 15, 2013 5:30:30 GMT -5
True, so what you are trying to say here is every bet should be paid right after a game is done? Because I agree with that 100percent. Let's face it as much arguments/misunderstandings and all that crap that has been going on with bets will compare to nothing wig what WILL soon happen when they get scammed. This will cause world war 3, I can nam you 3 situations right now where I nearly got scammed if it wasn't for the banning system to step in, they tried removing me of habbo and ignoring me , I simply posted a thread to banned him 10 mins later reality hit him and I was 100 coins richer. What I am trying to say her " bet at your own risk " simply won't work and it's really stupid... If there was arguments then I guarantee 20 times more arguments to come. Simply retarded. It wasn't the arguments, IMO. I'm not in council but I've always wanted this to be done and it never had anything to do with arguments. It was just how shady betting was done here. Now if people get scammed, it was their own fault for betting. Nothing simpler than that.
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Post by Sunfires on Jan 15, 2013 5:36:01 GMT -5
Lol I don't get how this will solve anything.. You have an argument but no solution and banning the person was the best solution too all the problems. I really don't understand why this was done whatever I'm never betting anyone here again ( unless there 100% legit)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2013 7:48:53 GMT -5
I think we should improve on the rules we have before worrying about the betting aspect of HFA players. It may just be me here but I don't really see all the current rules being enforced as fairly as they should be. People say don stole the vault yet didn't serve any time for that, yet there's guys still serving a ban and have been serving a ban for years for running onto the field or whatever. Pat is serving a ban for trashing a field, yet when I trashed a field a few years ago I did get banned but i played anyways while being banned and nothing was really enforced onto me after that. So I could see how pat would be upset about being banned for doing something (to a lesser degree then me I may add.). I've seen a lot of people admit to playing on other peoples accounts and cloning but nothing really happens to them, if I was banned for cloning id be pretty upset about that while another guy admits to it and gets nothing. As for betting, I think its something that should be left on habbo and sulake ect can deal with that kind of thing, but thats just how I left it when I owned things anyway
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2013 7:57:59 GMT -5
might as well take away the betting section after all current bets are payed because their are very few people in hfa that would actually follow up with a bet if they lost a gold bar and there were no consequences
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Post by Josh on Jan 15, 2013 9:18:37 GMT -5
I should be permed banned from hfa tbh lol
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Post by tyler on Jan 15, 2013 10:00:53 GMT -5
RIP HFA BETTING
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Post by patrick on Jan 15, 2013 11:19:16 GMT -5
This is garbage.
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Post by Sunfires on Jan 15, 2013 12:43:01 GMT -5
Simply retarded. I really don't fucking know what was bothering the council of this rule? Do they like fucking with the community? Can we get a explanation Brett? Atleast make a fucking poll too see what the community thinks about this stupid garbage rule.
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Post by Brett on Jan 15, 2013 12:53:55 GMT -5
How in any way should HFA be responsible for if you make a bet, like come on. If you get scammed, its your own damn fault for betting someone that you don't trust 100%, or the person is just a dickhead, and everybody else will figure that out, and nobody will bet them.
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Post by patrick on Jan 15, 2013 12:57:11 GMT -5
HFAs supported bets for how long? If you don't want to support bets in where you ban people, atleast give us the option for someone in the council (trusted) to hold the coins.
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Post by Sunfires on Jan 15, 2013 12:58:18 GMT -5
Thing is, even the non trusted end up paying cause they have consquences at the end of it. I mean if this was a person getting scammed outside of the HFA community, 100 percent understandable. But due to the fact the bet is being agreed on HFA land [ this site ] it does involve HFA , and all you simply have to do is write the person name on the banned list until paid. Simple as that.
Ive been banned the most here back when I never used to pay my bets [ 3 years ago ] hell I ended up paying 600 coins in total just to get unbanned. What I am trying to say here is all you were doing with the old rule was making HFA a better place.. no need to twist up the rules for NOTHING.
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